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如此恶劣的行为竞是一老外所为!!!
三天前来了一个声称叫色烈(音译)的老外,来店修理一辆SPECIALIZED的红色公路车,说是要换一下变速线管和变速线管帽,还有顺便调一下浮条,说是浮条太松了,经过本店技师小穆的修理变速线管和线管帽换好了,当时小穆在检查浮条时发现圈有一点小小的裂痕，故没有帮他调试浮条,当天老外没来取车,第二天叫了另一个朋友来取车,于是小穆告诉老外的朋友说圈有一点问题了,老外的朋友把车骑走了,第三天老外又来了,拿了一条开裂的圈说是小穆给他修环了,由于当时小穆不在店里去骑车了,店里只有芝一人在,于是这个叫色烈的老外一定要芝出具一个收条,收条内容大致如下:"收到来店维修圈一个.盖章".等到晚上我们都骑车回来,才得知这一情况,晚上9点,叫色烈的老外带着一个女的,来店里吵架,说是一定要赔一个圈给他,我说如果是我们店里调环的,不要说一个,10 个我也只能赔给他,但这事情前因后果一看就是个套路.说一个圈能调到开裂那是怎样的一种情形呀?所以我想有必要把我们遇到的情况给大家作个交待,以便大家在遇到相同情况时有个心理准备,据说这个老外在其他车店也有类似行径.

[ 此贴被都市森林人在2009-06-08 10:26重新编辑 ]

昨天晚上银子同学应该给瑟烈打过电话了. 一大早瑟列直接来我办公室找我说这件事. 虽然已经是一小时之前的事了,但是我仍然无法平静. 因为我听到了一个几乎不同,且更完整的版本, 里面充满了暴力威胁, 我真的不相信, 这会是发生在一家类似于SPECIALIZED这样高端自行车店的故事...

瑟烈本来不让我把这个故事放到网上来，因为他，他女朋友受到威胁，他不想为了一个60美金的破轮子而找来更多麻烦。。是我一再坚持，他才同意，我觉得有必要让大家知道整个事情的过程，还瑟烈一个清白。。

另外，我想提醒闪电店里的各位黑社会老大，宁波是法制社会，如果瑟烈或者他女朋友或者另外一个朋友人身再受到任何伤害，我一定不会放过你们

[ 此贴被譕嗍謂在2009-06-09 09:13重新编辑 ]

我让瑟烈先写了一个经过,大家先看看
I (Israel), Xiao Lin, and Xiao Si went back to the Specialized bike shop to discuss a wheel that we felt sure was damaged by careless maintenance from the bike shop. After the previous visit’s negative result, and the owner inviting us back to have someone else look at the wheel we showed up at the shop around 8 PM. In addition to the owner there was the mechanic, a friend of the owner, a big guy in a black shirt, the most voilent one, and two females outside of the store. They immediately began cursing us, before even looking at the wheel. We then called the police. Their cursing became very bad so I made the mistake of taking a photo of the scene. After I took the photo the group immediately attacked us physically. I hugged my bag that contained my camera (as well as many other personal belongings) and tried to get away. I told Xiao Lin and Xiao Si just to run away, as many people were around and if a foreigner were to try to defend and hit anyone else I know that everyone, whether I am right or wrong, would have all attacked me.

我(瑟烈), 小林(瑟烈女朋友),和小斯(瑟烈以前公司同事),返回闪电自行车店去协商我们认为是由于自行车店维修不当造成的轮圈损害. 因为上一次协商没有结果, 闪电店的店主让我在晚上8点左右再过去,让其他人再看看这个轮子的情况. 当时除了店主在以外,店里有一个机师,店主的朋友(穿黑衬衣的大块头), 店外有两个女的. 在还没看轮子之前,他们突然开始骂我们. 我们报了警. 他们越骂越厉害, 所以我拍了一张整个现场的照片. 在我拍完这张照片之后, 这群人立即开始打我们. 我抱住我的包,里面有相机还有很多私人物品, 并试图逃走. 我叫小林和小斯快跑,因为周围已经围了很多人. 如果一个外国人试图自卫或者打任何人, 我知道所有人, 不管是不是我的错, 都会来攻击我

[ 此贴被譕嗍謂在2009-06-09 09:33重新编辑 ]

When I was holding onto my bag trying to run away from the store I saw the store owner’s friend take a heavy U lock from the shop and starting hitting my friend Xiao Si as they held him from running away. He continued to try to run away as they punched and hit him until he lost his glasses and his shirt was torn to shreds.

当我抱住包要从店逃走的时候,我看见店主的朋友从店拿了一把U型锁然后用锁打我的朋友小斯, 他们把小斯抓住了. 在他们打小斯的时候,小斯继续试图逃走, 直到他的眼镜被打掉, 衣服被撕成碎条

I was able to run to the middle of the street, or in the grass between in the median where I secretly handed my camera to Xiao Lin who, unseen, ran away to the supermarket with it.

我跑到马路中间还是中间的草地什么地方悄悄把相机交给小林, 她带着相机跑进了超市, 没人发现她

Finally he got away when the police arrived and Xiao Lin returned, however when the police turned away the big friend of the bike shop punched Xiao Lin in the shoulder and kicked her in the stomach.

最后当警察来到现场后,小斯跑掉了, 小林也返回到现场. 但当警察背过身的时候, 店主那个大块头的朋友打了小林的肩,还踢了小林的肚子

During the altercation, while my arm was bruised and they pulled on my ear what bothered me the most was seeing my friend Xiao Si beaten when he was just trying to run away, and my girlfriend beaten by the other man. To fix the wheel would probably cost around $100, and I don’t like paying for things that others break, however it is really a small thing compared to the violence afterwards.

在口角过程中, 我的肩膀被弄伤了, 他们还扯我的耳朵, 最让我难受的是我的朋友小斯试图逃跑了还被他们打. 我的女朋友也被人打了. 修好这个轮子大概需要100美金, 我不会为已经坏了的东西付钱,但这和后面发生的暴力相比, 真的是件小事情

Afterwards at the police station I emphasized that I only wanted to be left alone, however the owner’s friend who was the most violent continued to threaten us saying he knows where I live and when I leave he will find me. “你自己当心点！ (you should be careful when you leave)” and I wouldn’t be safe unless I go back to the US. As anyone in a foreign country would feel, it of course made me feel quite nervous since even when I did nothing wrong and they were so violent they still were not punished, and it had taken the police so long to arrive.
之后在警察局, 我再三强调留下我一个人就可以了. 但是店主的朋友, 就是最暴力这个, 一直在威胁我们,说他知道我住哪里, 我离开警察局他就可以找到我. (你自己当心点!), 除非我回到美国, 我不会感到安全. 当我没有做错任何事的时候, 他们如此的暴力, 而且他们没有受到任何处理, 这当然会让我, (任何人身处国外的时候都会),感到很紧张.

There is one girl that works at the store who speaks very good English. When we were at the Police station she suddenly spoke English to me and said I had embarrassed other foreigners and so many people had seen it. I kindly asked her to tell me what I did wrong, did I curse someone, was I rude, did I hit anyone. To this she had no reply.

在那个店里工作的一个女孩英文很好. 当我们在警察局的时候,她突然对我讲英文, 说我的行为会让其他外国人尴尬, 说很多人看到了. 我心平气和地让她告诉我,我做错了什么, 还是我骂了什么人? 是我表现得很粗鲁还是我打了什么人? 她没有回答我的问题

I want to point out that during the entire incident we never hit anyone, never cursed them and after they attacked us just tried to run away.

我想指出的是, 整个过程中,我们没有打任何人, 也没有骂他们. 在他们开始打我们的时候我们只是想逃走

以上就是瑟烈的描述.

我只是想问, 为什么闪电会在一个老外根本不会来的论坛上发昨晚的贴子?为什么丝毫不提打人,去警察局的事?

人品绝对值得怀疑!

另外,我想补充的事, 瑟烈拍的那张照片在警察局的时候被他们威胁删掉了, 在警察局的时候都这么嚣张!

我要用森林都市人在另外一个贴子里的问题来问森林都市人:

http://bbs.cnnb.com.cn/read.php?tid=1281188&keyword=

天理何在！！！公理何在！！！
物业经理动手打人！
物业工作人员强行围攻业主！

描述：这个是圈现在的样子
图片：
这张是瑟烈的圈的样子.

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他在两周前去参加过自行车比赛 (坛子里应该有TX和他一起比赛) 之前,他擦过车和轮组, 没有发现有裂痕..

在上周一的时候, 他的后车胎在从宁波骑来奉化上班的时候半路上破掉,晚上在办公室我给他剥的后胎, 没有看见任何裂痕,

在送车去你店里修的当天,他和我去骑行了100公里
http://bbs.cnnb.com.cn/read.php?tid=1738369&fpage=2

在山上休息的时候我看过他的圈, 也没有发现裂痕

这是他回家以后拍的手上被弄伤拍的照片.

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很遗憾,小斯被打, 手上,脖子上都有抓伤和淤青,衣服也被撕破,但是没有留下任何照片

再次质问闪电店, 为什么在昨天晚上的贴子里不提照片, 冲突和去警察局的事情?

是你让8点左右去店里协商还是他们9点左右来店里闹事的? 现在觉得你10点发贴把他们来的时间改到9点同样值得让人怀疑!

我的回答是:不管某些人和色烈(音译)有多么深的交情,都掩盖不了他在我店里使用的恶劣的手段,也许他很聪明,他会运用这种吵作方式来谋取不正当的利益，因为消费者是值得同情和帮助的,就像打96315投诉一样,工商部门也会尽量考量消费的权益一样,但一点,我肯定的说,他的阴谋不会得逞,因为我根本与那个轮组毫无关系,因为我们服务的是变速线管和变速线帽,如果他以为他人为损坏的东西一定能够强嫁在我们机械师身上从而得到免费赔偿的话,他想错了,因为我是一个偏偏不信邪的人!也许这种较真没有必要,因为我们是商家,应以和为贵,这也是我后悔的地方,几百元钱有必要吗?何必呢?但恰恰是这种息事宁人的态度或许会给更多的商家带来不公平的待遇！网络的力量很大是因为他基本是支持正确的一面的,它也不是谁家开的或谁的话能够一锤定音的,不是人多人少声音大小决定一切的!有理你为什么不在派出所民警面前表白?一口流利的中文为什你在派出所要说英文装作听不懂中文?你是想考验我们人民警察的国际化水平吗?他恰恰是想利用国人大多支持老外的眼光!更可恶的是他的女朋友,你想仗什么势?你错了,鲁迅先生悲哀的和要拯救的就是你这种人,现在都什么年代了,国际友人我见过的也不少, 色烈(音译)的女友你还是好好反省一下你自已吧!你不能带给他中国友好良好的一面,正确和谐的一面,你总是在教他学习陋弊和世俗的一面,以至于他连基本的素质都荡然无存!这样下去我看你们两个是不会有什么好结局的!当然我不是嘲讽,中外友人结合我也看多了,但不是像你这样引导的!